• Skip to primary navigation
  • Skip to main content
  • Skip to primary sidebar
Art of Gluten-Free Baking
  • Home
  • About
    • Press
  • Gluten-Free Recipes
  • Tips & FAQs
    • GF Seattle FAQ
  • My Cookbooks
    • GF Baking for the Holidays Errata
    • GF Wish List Errata
  • Classes/Demos/Signings
  • Contact
  • Blog
  • Privacy Policy

Pie Crust, Humble Pie, and Mea Culpa

November 21, 2010 by Jeanne

This was not my week to shine, I will tell you that. I taught my gluten-free pie crust class. I’ve taught it before and things have gone fine. It’s usually fun and students are proud of themselves for actually rolling a pie crust that looks and tastes good. We make a full pie and then many smaller hand pies (what I call Toaster Tarts instead of Pop Tarts).

This time was different.

I arrived early to set up.  I chatted with my assistants. This was a new teaching space for me and it is beautiful–but it is huge! The lone fridge is at one end and the ovens are 15 ft away at the other end.  Since there were going to be about 9 students, we decided to set up at one end of the long counter so we could all talk to and help each other.  I didn’t think it through and we randomly chose an end–the end we chose was next to the ovens and next to the industrial strength dishwashers.  As it turned out, the dishwashers were running and venting steam the whole time I was teaching.

This was going to be a hands on class, so I had pre-measured bags of dry ingredients for the students and set them at each spot. It had been a busy day, so I had been driving around for a few hours with the  ingredients in my car, which meant they were not as cold as they usually are. On top of everything, I incorrectly wrote the recipe I was handing out to the students and it was 1 oz off on my flour (about 2.5 TBL). And I measured the student bags according to this incorrect recipe. Sigh. So many mistakes that I made in one setting. I’m surprised that lightning didn’t strike me.

As you know, making pie crust is a delicate balance of using and mixing cold ingredients for the dough, warming up the resulting dough a tiny bit to be at the correct rolling temperature, then cooling it down a bit before baking, and then placing it  into a hot oven where it almost magically becomes flaky and delicious.

Well, nothing of this delicate balancing act was present on my class night.  I had failed to plan for so many environmental issues and conditions, it was kind of ridiculous.  The space was warm and humid (thanks to the dishwashers and the rainy day).  The many overhead lights were hot.  The rolling counter was kind of warm.  And the mis-measured amount of flour wasn’t that bad, but it was enough to throw the whole thing over the edge into disaster.

Truly, you couldn’t purposefully have designed a worse class.  The dough didn’t respond well to mixing (it was too hot and humid in the kitchen), the countertop was too warm to roll it on with out it sticking and staying, no matter how much we floured it.  The fridge was too far away from me to use gracefully, and I ended up running back and forth from it like a chicken with my head cut off in a desperate attempt to keep the ingredients cool.  These assistants had never seen me teach before and I’m sure they secretly wondered what the heck I was doing in the teaching position.  Seriously.  Nothing worked.

Towards the end, the students and I did manage roll out and bake some nice toaster tarts that tasted good (although I burned the tops of some of them by putting them on a too-high rack in the oven–sigh).  Several students took  non-burned extras home and later wrote to me that their family members loved them.  And I got amazingly high marks on the comment sheets.  I’m guessing they were being kind.

I usually welcome small things to go wrong in class–they allow me to point out what went wrong, why, and how to handle them.  And it helps the students to see that things are never perfect.  But this was over-the-top wrong things.  And I felt so badly that the students really didn’t get a chance to see and experience how fun and truly easy gluten-free pie crust can be to make.

The next day I called the class coordinator for the teaching space and asked if she would mind if I contacted each student and offered each one of them a private pie crust tutorial.  She said that would be fine.  And that’s what I will do.  It’s the least I can do for folks who paid good money for a class that should have been much better than it was.

Also, that night I went home and combed through the pie crust recipe on this site to make sure it was OK–where I found that I had incorrect gram measurements for the flour and the butter.  The ounce and volume measurements are fine.  I have corrected the gram measurements.  If you are one of my international readers who uses the gram measurements, please accept my apologies for the the incorrect measurements.

Wow.  The good thing about all of this is that I’m sure a class of mine will never go as badly as this one did (at least, I hope this is the case).  And I want to apologize to my students and to anyone who used my recipe with the incorrect gram measurements and had bad pie crust.  My mouth is full of humble pie–although I can tell you that the crust is great!


You May Also Like

  • Banana Oatmeal Muffins, Gluten-FreeBanana Oatmeal Muffins, Gluten-Free
  • Turkey Meatloaf, Gluten-Free, Egg-Free, Dairy-FreeTurkey Meatloaf, Gluten-Free, Egg-Free, Dairy-Free
  • Brownie Bark, Gluten-Free From Silvana’s Gluten-Free and Dairy-Free Kitchen: Timeless Favorites Transformed {book review}Brownie Bark, Gluten-Free From Silvana’s Gluten-Free and Dairy-Free Kitchen: Timeless Favorites Transformed {book review}
  • Coffee Cake Friday: Brown Sugar-Chocolate Chip-Pecan Bundt Cake, Gluten-FreeCoffee Cake Friday: Brown Sugar-Chocolate Chip-Pecan Bundt Cake, Gluten-Free

Filed Under: pie Tagged With: gluten-free, glutenfree, pie crust class

Previous Post: « 2 Apple Pie Fillings, Gluten-Free
Next Post: Tar Heel (Chocolate Pecan) Pie, Gluten-Free »

Reader Interactions

Comments

  1. Mandie

    December 6, 2010 at 10:01 am

    I attended this class that you just discussed and although you weren’t able to roll the crust satisfactorily it still tasted great. It made me feel better to see that it can be tricky to make gf crust!

    I went home with the information I learnt and for the first time in 11 years managed to make a good gluten free apple pie that everyone raved about. I also made the pop tarts for my daughter for breakfast one Sunday morning and used marmalade as the center filling – delicious even though I say so myself.

    Thank you for a GREAT class.

    • admin

      December 6, 2010 at 10:22 am

      Oh Mandie: Thank you so much for telling me this! So great to know that you still got something out of the class!! Thanks!

  2. MsJan

    December 5, 2010 at 3:20 pm

    My husband has been GF for almost 3 years and we had given up on home made pie unless it had a crumb crust made from ground pecans and GF cookies. Not bad, but limiting. For our family “almost Christmas” get together this weekend, I made his favorite Coconut custard pie and your Tarheel pie using your crust recipe and both were delicious! There is a bit of learning curve with the pie dough, but I’ll get there. I think I was too sparing with the water because the crust edges shattered when I cut the pies, but it was a small price to pay to be able to bake my husband a REAL pie for once!

    • admin

      December 5, 2010 at 7:24 pm

      Ms Jan: Oh, I’m so glad! Yes, it takes a bit of time to make the crust well, but once you get it, it will be fab!!

  3. InTolerantChef

    November 22, 2010 at 12:13 pm

    We all have days like this. Yesterday I made huge quantities of (for my standards) horrible, gluggy, gnocchi. We don’t have time to re do it, so we will have to dish it up to our function and hope they don’t notice. Sometimes getting into bed is the best part of the day!

    • admin

      November 24, 2010 at 3:28 pm

      ITC: Oh, geez. Don’t you just hate it when that happens? Let’s hope we both have smooth sailing for awhile from now on! 🙂

  4. Kim-Cook It Allergy Free

    November 21, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Oh Jeanne, good things come out of the greatest disasters. I have a feeling that from now on out, those pie-crust demonstrations will become legendary. Your mistakes from this class will only enhance your future ones to no avail. Waiting lists will abound to get into them. I am so sorry that the stars were not quite aligned for this one, but it sounds like you have already come to terms with it. And so very gracefully, I might add. Now, I know for certain that I would LOVE to be in one of those classes, disaster-riddled or not! 😉

    • admin

      November 21, 2010 at 8:07 pm

      Oh, Kim! Thank you so much–you are so nice. And very kind! Thank you!!

  5. Nicole

    November 21, 2010 at 7:35 pm

    You sound like you need a pick-me-up! Don’t get down on yourself, you are a magician with the gluten free goods! Read my post to see how my attempt at your pie crust turned out. Simply fabulous!! Thank you for all that you do for us in the world of gluten free living!
    http://glutenfreeguineapig72.blogspot.com/2010/11/best-pie-ever.html

    • admin

      November 21, 2010 at 8:08 pm

      Nicole: Thank you so much! I and just went over to look at your crust post–wowee! You did a great job! Congrats. Your crust is so pretty! I’m so glad my recipes are helpful for you! I tried to leave a message, but my crazy computer wouldn’t let me in. I will try again. Thanks again!

  6. Stephanie

    November 21, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Jeanne- So sorry for such a challenging situation! I know how it feels. I teach quilting, and I had one class go so hilariously wrong that to this day I still shake my head about it. It didn’t seem so hilarious at the time, believe me. I’m sure you handled the whole thing with grace, and it sounds like you had a great bunch of understanding students. Every challenge we face is a chance to learn. I want you to know how much I respect you and how grateful I am for this blog. I love your style, I love your honesty, and your recipes are great! I was up well past midnight last night baking your fabulous cinnamon rolls, which my husband loved, BTW!

  7. Sallie

    November 21, 2010 at 3:19 pm

    Jeanne: I can only laugh because how many times have we all done that – but maybe not in a class we are teaching. You are such a great cook and mentor to all us who are gluten free that you are allowed to have screw ups. I am sure next time you will be right on point. Thanks for sharing your humaness! Sallie

    • admin

      November 21, 2010 at 5:06 pm

      Sallie: Oh, thanks! Yes, it was actually very funny (I actually said that during class–what else could I say?). And thank you so much for the kind words!

  8. Chef Gwen

    November 21, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    Oh my, that brings back some memories (I taught cooking classes for 10 years before I switched to food writing). I bow my toque to you, though, for sharing your less-than-perfect class, and for caring enough to offer private classes to each of the students. More than likely, they were not nearly as aware of the issues as you were. You are a terrific teacher and a class act. Bravo.

    • admin

      November 21, 2010 at 5:07 pm

      Gwen: Thanks so much! And thanks so much for the compliments!

  9. Jeanine

    November 21, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    Oh boy…we all have those days! You’ll rock ’em next time! 🙂

    • admin

      November 21, 2010 at 5:08 pm

      Jeanine: I hope so! Thanks!

  10. kelly

    November 21, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    Oh Jeanne! Please don’t be so hard on yourself…sounds like “life” just happened. I am sure that your students learned a wonderful gf lesson as well. Gf baking isn’t always perfect and the saying usually says’ “practice makes perfect”, but in our home we say: “practice makes progress.” I am sure that you showed perseverance and resolve. I am totally inspired to make an extra crust for thanksgiving so I can make some toaster pastrees too. I have some spiced apple butter that would be soooo yummy in them!

    • admin

      November 21, 2010 at 2:24 pm

      Kelly: Oh, thank you so much! It was a wacky experience, that’s for sure. Ack. Also, I love “practice makes progress”–that’s a terrific saying! And I’m so glad you are making the Toaster Tarts–they are so fun. Let me know what you think!

  11. Ashley

    November 21, 2010 at 2:12 pm

    It sounds like everyone still had a wonderful time. Offering to teach a private session is so gracious of you.
    I’d love to take a class from you sometime!

    • admin

      November 21, 2010 at 2:25 pm

      Aw, thanks Ashley–you are so kind. And we should take a class from each other sometime–that would be fun!!

  12. DorianTB

    November 21, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    I completely sympathize with you, especially since I had similar snafus with GF cupcakes I made for my daughter’s birthday. The kids seemed to enjoy them anyway, though I suspect it helped that I provided cans of squirt-on frosting, and the girls were having so much fun making designs that most of them didn’t notice the cupcakes were dense in a bad way. 🙂 Take heart — even the folks who participate in those Food Network Challenge competitions find themselves tripped up by different kitchens with unfriendly environments and such. Hey, we all live and learn, right? 🙂

    • admin

      November 21, 2010 at 2:25 pm

      Dorian: Aw, thanks! And I totally understand the cupcake thing. I love the fact that the girls had so much fun with them. And you’re right–at least I didn’t do this on National TV–ack!

  13. Karen Robertson

    November 21, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    Don’t worry Jeanne, everyone loved your baked goods at Will Bake 4 Food. Everything at the event was gone in an hour and a half.
    Let’s get together for coffee soon.
    Karen

    • admin

      November 21, 2010 at 1:59 pm

      Ah, thanks Karen–that’s good to know! And yes, I would love to get together soon!

Primary Sidebar

logo
Food Advertisements by

Sign Up for My Newsletter!

Subscribe

* indicates required

For information about my privacy practices see my Privacy Policy page.

Affiliate Link Notice

I use Amazon affiliate links on this blog.  I get a small percentage of each purchase made with these links.  Thank you!

For more buying options for my cookbooks, please see the My Cookbooks page.


logo
Food Advertisements by

Search my site

Coffee Cake Friday

Coffee Cake Friday: Blueberry-Lime

Friday Coffee Cake: Bittersweet Mocha

Coffee Cake Friday: Sour Cream Bundt Cake with Jam, Gluten-Free

Coffee Cake Friday: Pumpkin Spice Bundt Cake

See More →

All Recipes In Alphabetical Order

My recipes, alphabetical order

Angel Sugar Cookies

Animal Crackers

2 Apple Pie Fillings

Baguettes

Banana Bread

Banana Oatmeal Muffins

Bear’s Ginger Oat Muffins

Berry Cake

Best Blueberry Muffins

Bittersweet Mocha Coffee Cake

Blackberry Cobbler

Blueberry Crumb Bars

Blueberry Honey Muffins

Blueberry-Lime Coffee Cake

Blueberry Snack Cake

Bread, Sandwich, Multi-Grain

Bread, Sandwich, Soft

Bread, Sourdough (boule–round loaf)
–Sourdough Starter

Brown Butter Pound Cake

Brownies

Brownies, Bittersweet

Brownie Bark

Butter Cookies (Spritz, Pressed)

Buttermilk Biscuits

Chantilly Meringuée (or Elegant Ice Cream)

Cheese Crackers and Straws

Cheese Straws (made with gluten-free Puff Pastry)

Cherry Pie

Chocolate Almond Cake

Chocolate Bouchons

(Decadent) Chocolate Cake

Chocolate Chip Meringue Cookies (dairy-free)

Chocolate Chip Cookies and Chocolate Chunk Cookies, 2 Recipes

Chocolate Chip Cookies, Shortbread-type (egg-free)

Chocolate Chip Meringue Cookies

Chocolate Chip Scones

Chocolate Chocolate Chip Biscotti

Chocolate Clementine (orange) Cake

Chocolate Dump (It) Cake

Chocolate Pecan (Tar Heel) Pie

Chocolate Pound Cake

Chocolate Sheet Cake (w/Chocolate Pecan Frosting)

Cinnamon Rolls, with or w/o Cream Cheese Frosting

Cinnamon Swirl Sour Cream Coffee Cake

Coffee Chocolate Almond Crunch Bars (egg-free)

Cornbread

Cranberry Cake

Cranberry Sauce

Crazy Cake (dairy-free and egg free)–w/instructions for cupcakes, too

Cream Cheese Pound Cake

Cream Cheese Truffle Brownie Cookies

Cream Scones

Crullers (donuts) (with a selection of glazes)

Cupcakes (chocolate), use the Fast, Easy, and Elegant Fudge Cake recipe and bake for 30 mins. or the Crazy Cake recipe for a vegan alternative

Decadent Chocolate Cake

Dilly Cottage Cheese Bread

Dinner Rolls (yeasted)–like Parker House Rolls

Doughnuts (cake-style), 2 Recipes (Plain + Pumpkin)

Fast, Easy, and Elegant Fudge Cake

Flour Mix (Jeanne’s Gluten-Free All-Purpose Flour Mix)

Flour, Self Rising

French Breakfast Muffins

Fruit Drop Cookies

Fruitcake–aka, Country Christmas Cake (the best fruicake you will ever eat!)

Fudge

Garlic Truffle Oil Popcorn

Ginger Molasses Cookies

Gingerbread Cake with Persimmon

Graham Crackers

Hamburger Buns

Honey Vanilla Pound Cake

Ho Hos

Hot Cross Buns, Traditional

Hot Cross Buns, Apple Cinnamon

Irish Soda Bread

Italian Chocolate Kiss Cookies (Baci di Cioccolato)–chocolate-almond cookies w/chocolate filling

Jam-Filled Butter Cookies–Thumbprint cookies

Jam-Filled Shortbread Cookies (nut-free Linzer cookies)

Kentucky Bourbon Cake

King Cake

Krumkake (Scandinavian Crisp Cookies)

Lemon Sour Cream Pound Cake

Lemon Buttermilk Snack Cake

Lentil-Tomato Pasta Sauce

Linzer Cookie, Giant (nut-free)

Little Tiered Chocolate Cakes

Madeleines (Classic)

Maple Bundt Cake

Marbled Coffee Cake (Viennese-style)–chocolate swirl in a lemon cake

Matzo

Mocha Bundt Cake

Nanaimo Bars

Nut and Jam Snack Bars

Orange and Poppy Seed Quick Bread

Oatmeal Cookies, Salty (like the Teaism cookies)

Oreos

Pan Gravy, Classic

Pancakes

Pancakes and Waffles, Sourdough

Pasta (Homemade)

Pasta with Brussels Sprouts, Chili, and Bacon

Peach Cake

Pepparkakkor (Swedish Gingersnaps)

Pie Crust, Flaky

Pie Crust Crackers

Pistachio Cookies with White Chocolate Ganache

Pizza Crust (NYC thin-style)

Pizza, Grilled

Pound Cake

Puff Pastry

Puff Pastry Cheese Straws

Puff Pastry Shells (Vols au Vent)

Puff Pastry Turnovers

Pumpkin Chocolate Chip Cake

Pumpkin Spice Bundt Cake

Pumpkin Pie (with directions on how to adapt to dairy-free)

Ranch Dressing

Ricotta Pound Cake

Risotto (Easy, cooked in Pressure Cooker)

Rosettes (light and delicate Scandinavian fried cookies)

Salmon (or Halibut) Croquettes w/ Spicy Remoulade Sauce

Salty Oat Cookies–like the Teaism cookies

Shortbread Cookies (w/Oat Flour and Ginger)

Shortcake Biscuits (including recipe for Strawberry Shortcake)

Skordalia (Greek potato-garlic-lemon dip)

S’more Whoopie Pies

Soup with Beans, Turkey, Potatoes, Basil and Cumin

Sour Cream Bundt Cake

Sour Cream Orange Coffee Cake

Sourdough Bread (boule–round loaf)
–Sourdough Starter

Strawberry Cake

Strawberry (or Raspberry) Mascarpone Tart with Pecan Shortbread Crust

Streuselkuchen (yeasted German Crumb Cake)

Tar Heel (Chocolate Pecan) Pie

Texas Sheet Cake

Thin Mint Cookies (like the Girl Scout cookies of the same name)

Toaster (or Portable) Tarts–like Pop Tarts

Tortillas (Flour)

Tres Leches Cake

Tunnel of Fudge CAke

Turkey Meatloaf

Victoria Sponge Cake (Jam-Filled)

Vols au Vent (Puff Pastry Shells)

Waffles (Buttermilk)

Waffles (Sourdough)

Whipped Cream Cake

Zucchini Bread (with or w/o chocolate chips)

logo
Food Advertisements by

Art of Gluten-Free Baking © 2025

Built with and Genesis Framework by Bellano Web Studio

This website uses cookies to improve your experience. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. Cookie settingsGOT IT!
Privacy & Cookies Policy

Privacy Overview

This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience.
Necessary
Always Enabled
Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. These cookies do not store any personal information.
Non-necessary
Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website.
SAVE & ACCEPT